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Author Topic: Round #1 - Your feedback required. New SheevaPlug concepts.  (Read 2198 times)
iVolt
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« on: September 27, 2010, 07:00:18 AM »

All,

I am asking for your opinion regarding the platform you would prefer to work on. Your feedback and posts might lead to a better development platform available to you.

I'm going to start with this post, and will follow with other rounds for fine tune.

How would you rank the below items? Please sort them by importance, starting from highest:

1- Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
2- Must be in the price range $100-$150
3- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
4- Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
5- Must have slick design and look.
6- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
8- Must have the best power efficiency
9- Must be below $100

Please indicate your field of interest of this platform and feel free to add your own suggestions.

Best regards,
iVolt
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 02:26:53 PM »

I registered an account just to reply to this message.
Whatever the form factor, I like it to have at least 2 Ethernet ports, and eSATA or USB 3.0 port.

9- Must not come from Globalscale!!!!!
8- Must have the best power efficiency
4- Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
9- Must be below $100
2- Must be in the price range $100-$150
7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
6- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
1- Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
3- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
5- Must have slick design and look.


green, quite, cheap, small, and powerful enough (>1GHz, >512MB RAM). bare-bone board preferred.

--Unhappy GP+ owner
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 03:16:34 PM »

I am a owner of 2 esata sheevaplugs , and did order a Guruplug but converted my order to a esata sheevaplug. Due to the heat problems and not been able to use the second Ethernet port at full speed.

Plug form factor not important to me as long as it`s not bigger than a hard drive enclosure. 
( My order of importance )
Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance) - But more ( power efficiency vs performance )
Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
Must be in the price range $100-$150
Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
Must have slick design and look.
Must be in red and have go faster stripes

Nice ideas would be to have USB3 , and extra Ethernet ports without overheating the design or having to need to install a fan.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 02:54:48 AM »

How would you rank the below items? Please sort them by importance, starting from highest:

 4- Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
10- Must be build out of high quaility-parts (power-supply / flash / conenctors)
 8- Must have the best power efficiency (should have not over 40 Celsius)
 3- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
11- Must have the option to switch to a external power-supply
    (or power-supply detachable which leaves a standard-low-ower voltage-port)
12- Leave the jtag/rs232-port inside the case
 5- Must have slick design and look. (the case should have a passive cooling-system)
 2- Must be in the price range $100-$150
 6- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
 7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
 1- Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
13- Must have a real SATA-port
14- Must have a min-pci WLAN-Card
15- Must have a status display
16- Must have an optional profession case for installing a harddrive
 9- Must be below $100
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 04:23:06 AM »

0- Must be very reliable to work 24/7 for many months without human intervention
4- Must be quiet and doesn't include any moving parts
8- Must have the best power efficiency
3- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
6- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
5- Must have slick design and look.
1- Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
2- Must be in the price range $100-$150
9- Must be below $100

I believe all those nice features are not worth much if the device as a whole is unreliable. I have been using Wafer-LX-800 SBC as my home gateway/server for about 4 years. I'm very happy with it, although it only satisfies conditions 0 and 4 (and partly 8 ) from the list. About the only reason why I'm trying to switch to GuruPlug Server Plus is that it has gigabit ethernet.

Small footprint is nice, but as for the plug form-factor, I consider it a disadvantage, because it adds extra limitations to where you can put it. Besides, the European "flat" plug is not very good at holding considerable weight in a "big" power socket, which goes back to the reliability question.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 02:47:54 AM »

9- Must be below $100
0- Must be very reliable to work 24/7 for many months without human intervention
8- Must have the best power efficiency
4- Must be quiet and doesn't include any moving parts

I'm neutral to form factor, it's always nice to have bare boards to enable more designs.

The weak point of sheevaplug is power supply reliability and ability to sustain USB devices: may be move to external power supply or use one that doesn't fry when overloaded.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 07:03:07 AM »

1: reliable 24/7 under 50$

check the dockstar: 17.99$ today (www.1saleaday.com)
much better performance/price in my opinion
more then 1 year a go, Marvell said will drop the price under 50$... I'm still waiting.
I've installed few docstar 's following Jeff scripts ( http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/ ) and OpenWrt ( http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ecc/dockstar-howto.html )
Very satisfied.

My "hot" guruplug plus is not plugged anymore.

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 09:38:23 AM »


1- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
2- Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
--> must have esata: possibly as combo port w/ usb2 (but not eSata at expense of at least one available USB port)
3- Must be in the price range $100-$150
-->usb3
4- Must have the best power efficiency
5- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
6- Must be below $100
7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
8- Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
9- Must have slick design and look.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 03:19:24 AM »

My plug application is not so hungry for processing power. Price and power efficiency are more important.
I would sort the points from higher to lower as follows:

9- Must be below $100
8- Must have the best power efficiency
4- Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
6- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
3- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)

Personally I would go for a DC power input (maybe with optional AC/DC  plugONplug) to reduce the overheat issue.
Having PLC capabilities and a digital audio interface (or combination of both) would be a nice upgrade for the device.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 02:23:42 PM »

0- Must NOT come from GLOBALSCALE!!!!
13- Must have JTAG built in
8- Must have the best power efficiency
2- Must be in the price range $100-$150
11- Must be reliable
12- Must have ESATA
Beyond that, I don't much care.. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 02:34:29 AM »

Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
Must have good power efficiency
Must have a higher drive capacity ~8GB
Must be in the price range $100-$200
Must support VLAN
Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 05:43:40 AM »

4- Must be quite and doesn't include any moving parts
6- Must have the highest processing power available (vs. lowest price/performance).
8- Must have the best power efficiency
3- Must be packaged within an enclosure (vs.  bare-bones)
2- Must be in the price range $100-$150
7- Must have the smallest footprint possible.
9- Must be below $100
5- Must have slick design and look.
1- Must be plug computer form factor and pluggable to a wall outlet.
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