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1  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Plug vs Nettop on: January 31, 2011, 04:07:31 AM
oops the model I posted uses SoDIMM so you may find this model, that uses DIMM RAMs, better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813153187&cm_re=intel_atom_d525-_-13-153-187-_-Product
2  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Plug vs Nettop on: January 31, 2011, 04:00:33 AM
So, I currently have the following in my tower: Intel E8500, 4GB worth of 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800, glued onto ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i. If I purchase something like BOXDQ45EK (LGA 775) motherboard, put my E8500 in there in addition to all other useful stuff like the RAM I already have, a Ubuntu distro, maybe an optical drive, all I'd have to but would be the case itself, the mobo and the power supply. Would it make more sense, in term of cost at least? I like to recycle stuff.

or you can spend even less and get a fanless and greener pc...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121442&cm_re=intel_atom_d525-_-13-121-442-_-Product

you still can use your ram, disks and power supply...but with less money a pc that wastes less energy and makes less noise!!


dammuozz
3  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Plug vs Nettop on: January 29, 2011, 01:29:16 AM
Nettop power: according to various blogs and tech sites, about 60-80W.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv300VDiS2U&feature=player_embedded

go to 11:20, he says 19-20w idle and 26w full load


dammuozz
4  General Category / General Discussion / Re: MS Windows on Linux on: January 27, 2011, 03:40:31 AM
however a lot of windows apps got their linux twin...or something similar...

in this case depends on what app you need to run...


p.s.: always remind that "google is your friend"
dammuozz
5  Hardware and U-Boot firmware / Hardware / Re: Fit PC TrimSlice: looks like a nice desktop ARM PC on: January 27, 2011, 03:37:59 AM
Nice untill you see the price I bet .

I agree...but hope not!

dammuozz
6  General Category / General Discussion / Re: DreamPlug on: January 27, 2011, 03:26:40 AM
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx

$149

Orders shipping in Feb Wink

We'll see...

149$ ??

please take a look at "details" on this page....then have a look where it says 79$...
...on mini-itx.com there's a video where a pc built with that mobo+cpu and an ssd drive draws 19 W in idle and 26W at full load...

I think that at globalscale they're losing the direction...I think the sheevaplug as their first plug is still the more stable, and reasonably priced  thing they built.


sorry about the 200 grammar errors I committed, however think of it...
dammuozz
7  General Category / General Discussion / Re: mini-itx: green and affordable plugpc alternative?? a home server for 120$ on: January 27, 2011, 03:08:56 AM
thank you so much for sharing!!!! I'll try to find one at a resonable price here in italy!!

dammuozz
8  General Category / General Discussion / Re: Updating sheevaplug software on: January 26, 2011, 03:40:30 AM
and if i can give you an advice: don't mess with uboot until you really need to!!

you can easily brick you sheeva...that's what happened to me


dammuozz
9  General Category / General Discussion / Re: mini-itx: green and affordable plugpc alternative?? a home server for 120$ on: January 26, 2011, 02:00:57 AM
I think the Gurus only use about 10 - 15 W of power, but have over-heating problems.  So, a fanless 25 W machine sounds like it also might run a little too hot.


i don't think asus will produce a mainboard with overheating problems...
however plugs are much less energy hungry that mini-itx, and less powerfull, but when my sheevaplug was running I never had to complain about its performances...

@radael: it can work but I think everyone needs a system that works 356 day a year... :/

@velo_love: interesting! can you give me more details? how much does cost dockstar? did you have to flash ubuntu on it or what??
p.s.:
... The Dockstar manages a usb serial card (it drives my shutters) ...
how cool is that!!??!!! Cheesy

thank you all,
dammuozz

10  General Category / General Discussion / Re: mini-itx: green and affordable plugpc alternative?? a home server for 120$ on: January 25, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
As I see it, the main advantage of a plug is its size and power consumption. You can certainly build your own system, maybe even for cheaper, but the size as well as wattage are what matters to most people.

I agree with you, in fact i am an sheevaplug user ( or I was and now I'msheevabrick user, but however )
I am not saying in any way that this system is better or worst than a guruplug server...
no intentions to make it a challenge between plug's and mini-itx


what I meant is that if someone can give me some tips about choosing a sheevaplug or a guruplug or the configuration posted above
considering tasks I mentioned, and I think that are the popular tasks we need on an home-server...

I may say that for my specific case, being a student with very little incomes, the most important matter for me is the cost of the system, then comes the power efficency and quietness.

I have no problem about space and CPU power must be enough to run those service i mentioned.

dammuozz

11  General Category / General Discussion / mini-itx: green and affordable plugpc alternative?? a home server for 120$ on: January 25, 2011, 09:34:46 AM
considering I went mad trying to fix my bricked sheeva and I was considering to buy an another one....maybe with sata


then surfing the net I came across this:

mini-itx intel atom motherboard with fanless CPU all-in-one, I'm interested especially in this two models, intel atom D425 and D510,
the single core 1,8 vs dual core 1,66 edition. Considering I want to build a "sheevaplug-like" home server for web services, torrent and file sharing over network, ssh, etc... I'll choose the single core, which is 15 cheaper.

cpu's comparsion:
http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=49489,43098,

tom's hardware rewiev:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/d510mo-intel-atom,2616-3.html

interesting tom'shw forum thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264343-28-intel-atom-based-server-experiences

prices on newegg.com:
http://www.newegg.com/Store/BrandSubCategory.aspx?Brand=1157&SubCategory=446&name=Intel-Motherboard-CPU-VGA-Combo

prices on HRW.it where I think I'll boy it...(this page is in italian, sorry):
http://www.hrw.it/componenti-e-networking/asus-at4nm10-i-mini-itx-processore-intel-atom-d425-uw-0-1652-249416.aspx

69 mobo & cpu +
19 1gb ddr2 800mhz ram +
cheap power supply I already own=
-------------------------------------------
88 for a 1.8 ghz 64bit fanless cpu system that draws around 25w of power

I think that's an incredible alternative to a sheeva or a plug....

for non EU readers that's 88 = 119.6448 US$

let me hear what YOU think about!! is mine a good or bad idea? help me making up my mind!! Smiley

dammuozz
12  Hardware and U-Boot firmware / Hardware / Re: HELP | Power |How can we power the GURU PLUG by battery or USB ??? on: January 19, 2011, 02:40:14 AM
The board only needs five volts so a battery and regulator should work fine.  USB in high power mode is limited to 500mA and we need 1A+ so USB wouldn't be a good option.

right!
you can use an mc7805 plugged to the robot's battery....or you can, as pagercam said, buy a battery regulator!

dammuozz
13  Hardware and U-Boot firmware / U-Boot stuff / Re: plug with only green led on and no serial connection...I need a resurrection on: December 21, 2010, 05:09:52 PM
@ sfzhi: I spend two days trying to unbrick the plug still with no luck...I even installed ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop but nothing went well....

1)can you describe me all the openocd installation process that worked for you?? version? where did you get it from??
I tried to follow the readme but the links are all messed up...some are too old and other need password to login...

2) I tried using virtualbox but it won't let me take control of the usb....which virtual machine did you used??

thank you, I really need some help...
dammuozz
14  Hardware and U-Boot firmware / U-Boot stuff / Re: plug with only green led on and no serial connection...I need a resurrection on: December 21, 2010, 04:58:28 PM
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15  Hardware and U-Boot firmware / U-Boot stuff / Re: Bricked Sheevaplug (fixed) on: November 29, 2010, 01:21:58 AM
wonderful! I've been trying to unbrick my sheevaplug for ages!!!! obviously with no success....

I must say I agree with you when you say readmes and all the documentation about openOCD and installer-scripts stuff are way too much complicated and can't tell you what to do!!!

I'll give another try using your configuration with openocd and debian sqeeze....If you have any tips please do help me... Smiley

I gave up unbricking my sheeva but your story it's the proof that "it can be done!!"... Tongue



dammuozz
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